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Post by loyal on Jan 22, 2015 20:36:47 GMT -5
It's a lock he'll have the best tan in Albany.
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Post by cindycrawford on Jan 23, 2015 8:06:10 GMT -5
It's a lock he'll have the best tan in Albany. Hunted up and down the Caribbean ,but did not find a viable recruit. There were however some excellent cheerleader prospects on a beach in Belize.
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Post by whiskeyjack61 on Jan 23, 2015 9:26:28 GMT -5
Surprised you didn't find one. I read where a HS team on Long Island has 4 kids from Mali and another from Nigeria. Better get on the stick!!
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Post by cindycrawford on Jan 23, 2015 10:11:10 GMT -5
Surprised you didn't find one. I read where a HS team on Long Island has 4 kids from Mali and another from Nigeria. Better get on the stick!! Cruise did not stop in Africa otherwise I might have.
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Post by loyal on Jan 23, 2015 12:04:33 GMT -5
Cut WJ a break.
To my recollection, Geography was never a pre-requisite at SPC.
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Post by figgyprez on Jan 24, 2015 14:50:45 GMT -5
OT sorry I took so long to get back, but let me clarify several things. I am saying the players may not be good enough, but remember who recruited them. Can't avoid ultimate responsibility and as a coach you know that's true for better or worse. I used Hester(and Marvin's ftas) only to make the point that our offensive mind set is sclerotic. Don't sell JD short in this discussion either. He's not a victim. He's been in D1 for years and he knows the rules. I know he's a fierce competitor too and wants to win desperately. So when I begin to ask about the program's future and suggest that a new direction might be needed it's not like I'm taking a lamb to the slaughter either. Bottom line is I will back the team regardless of who coaches it and as I said before I couldn't care less who does since I will never any say anyway. But we might be approaching a division in the road where we either choose a safe and stable but uninspiring course or choose another direction knowing that that choice is fraught with risk. Ask SHU about casting away Orr for Gonzo. Doesn't mean change equals better, but at least decide and stand behind it.
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Post by Peacock on Jan 24, 2015 15:44:07 GMT -5
Considering the volume of posts from oldtimer over the years and the proposal of our talent one would think he is not transparent. At one win he will extoll the coach. As I have said many times before it has been nine seasons of same poor offense, poor talent evaluation, and than expect us to believe the coach will tell him any problems he has. In fact, Dunne threw the players under the bus. The stilted nature of the offense comes from him and those who have watched the team through the nine seasons will recognize this. The real problem rests with the so-called fans. Dunne is at best functional, but not competent at this level. To have people disagree with this comment with politically correct comments is the real nature of the problem at SPU. When the few who care express little dissent, what need is there to make a change. I believe there are only two posters who really think he is a good coach.
As far as oldtimer goes, he just can't handle dissent. my only sin is thinking Dunne is a horrible head coach. The facts support and he can't handle that. So he can accuse me of anything. He just has no clue in fighting for what's best for the school and needs to pursue his very old apologetic direction.
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Post by oldtimer1 on Jan 24, 2015 15:48:50 GMT -5
No problem Figgy. I have no problem with your take on possible coaching changes although I feel it would be a shame to lose JD and especially Marlon. However, with regard to your other points:
1) Yes these are the players JD recruited but sometimes us fans think that he has "pick of the litter"...not so. None of us coach's in any sport do. That's the reality of coaching here. Just look at next Fall's recruits to date, only two! The reality is that recruiting at St. Peter's is always difficult and it's not because recruits don't want to come here because of our teams record or style We never hit a home run in recruiting except for Marvin and that was because of a personal relationship with Marlon. We get good players (see Trevis) but never the guaranteed five star or even four star player.
2) Not to blame you but it drives me crazy that no matter how many times I've mentioned it, it is either dismissed or not understood that THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY HALF COURT OFFENSIVE SETS IN COLLEGE BASKETBALL. Basically we use almost exactly the sets as most and we always try to run off an offensive rebound. Manhattan, for example, has but one or two basic offensive sets. What it comes down to is either wide open shots or individual players making plays. Watch any college basketball game and you will almost always see an individual player making a play.
Now if posters want to disbelieve what I posted about JD's wanting his players to make plays that's their problem. Yes, some are reluctant but if you watched the first half of the Quinnipac game as I know you did our players tried to make plays and drive to the basket but with little results. At one point we only scored 9 points but our offense attempts were wide open. Much better than our earlier games when Cindy posted from Mass. that JD chasticized his players for passing up open look after open look.
And I don't think we hesitate any much more than any of the teams we have played. Almost all of our games have been very close so are those other teams being hesitant also? Seems to me that more than a few of our losses can be attributed to two things...lack of a go to player in crunch time and horrible foul shooting when it mattered. The Manhattan game never would have gone into overtime if we didn't miss 4 straight four shots when it counted. That, by the way, is not an excuse but reality. Our record would be many games better if we (except Desi) made our foul shots. Absolutely true.
Respect your opinions...sometimes we agree, other times we don't and I do agree strongly with you last sentence. And, by the way, a coaching change will only be made, if it is, when JD's contract expires. No money for any of that stuff
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Post by oldtimer1 on Jan 24, 2015 16:31:32 GMT -5
Peacock...no need to respond in depth. The truth is you attack much more than I defend. What I do object to is your outright lies hidden in generalizations without any specifics.
"throwing players under the bus" is but one example of things you know nothing about The one example, I remember quite well was where you posted years ago that there was a big problem in our dressing room regarding coach and players. You had no direct knowledge of this but posted this lie. You were called out when someone who was in that dressing room , and not a regular poster, said that event you described never happened.
As I've posted, many of our former players have returned to watch our games and reunite with their former coach. There is a lot of love and respect on the part of these former players. Remember the Nick Leon/JD moment at the NCAA's? Post what you want about our coach's ability, basketball wise. That's fair game but this other stuff is below even you.
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Quinnipiac
Jan 24, 2015 17:29:17 GMT -5
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Post by newfan on Jan 24, 2015 17:29:17 GMT -5
I don't think any team in the MAAC gets the 4 or 5 star player, because they are usually recruited into conferences much higher, and those players are usually not looking at the MAAC conference. I do think records and game styles to a degree factor into recruits decisions. Not all teams get the pick of the litter, what some do seem to do is maximize each players individual talent and get those talents to work as a cohesive unit. Many programs use same half court sets, some with variations, other teams stick to their game plan with no deviation. All in all, At this point, we need to get some W's, hopefully starting tomorrow.
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Quinnipiac
Jan 24, 2015 22:04:54 GMT -5
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Post by newfan on Jan 24, 2015 22:04:54 GMT -5
Checked from work, Didn't see game for MAAC TV, my home laptop acting up right now, anyone know if will be on Siena website
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