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Post by figgyprez on Jun 10, 2011 22:43:32 GMT -5
It seems we have the age old draft day question: take the best player available (perhaps the mysterious guard) or pick for immediate need ( a big like the ones eport reports on) Frankly I just dont know anymore. Too much drama and intrigue for me. BTW I see our old friend Teague moved to SHU. For Willards sake I hope the advisory board doesnt go with the ship.
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Post by eport on Jun 11, 2011 4:26:23 GMT -5
Figgyprez, I do know one thing for sure,..... Dunne isn't going for the best guy available. Trust me, he knows the urgency to land a big that can contribute....... it"s definitely his top priority for next year. Who knows ......maybe we can surprise again next year. After all, who in their wildest dreams would have thought that we would have pulled off what we did last year. We are one good player away from being very competitive in the MAAC next year. No doubt, Iona and Fairfield are the favorites for next year, but we are not far from making history repeat itself and 2012 looks pretty good right now..
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Post by spcfan on Jun 11, 2011 6:19:13 GMT -5
Figgy ,by pure talent the big with one year may actually be the best player available and fills a need. Problem is you won't know anything until late August so it's a big risk to wait and possibly get nothing. The guard also would be a very good get for us and is a flat out shooter and has shown elsewhere to be capable of averaging double figures with three years eligibility.The two hardest areas for us recruiting wise are bigs and flat out shooters.If we go with the guard we then have to get at least two quality bigs with the next class,no easy task.
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Post by loyal on Jun 11, 2011 9:00:08 GMT -5
Whether Dunne lands the one year big guy or the shooting guard, SPC will still need two quality front line players in the next recruiting class........one of which will have to be ready to step right in next to Conley.
The only way that dilemma is avoided at this point is if we land, this summer, a good JUCO who can contribute for the next two years. (Assuming Ferguson is only a role player).
We've painted ourselves (or been painted) into a bit of a corner. Too bad, was hoping for a better recruiting results coming off the MAAC Title.
We may have to be content with recurring dreams of Wesley going 7-7 from the line in the last two minutes of the MAAC Final for a while. :>)
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Post by Peacock on Jun 11, 2011 10:24:55 GMT -5
The biggest problem we have is buying into words like the player is an impact player. Teal had nothing in his resume to indicate he would have been an impact player. The supposed big kid has only two years of playing time out of four years in school, has not graduated as yet, which is a necessity to to be eligible and averaged less than 9 points per game. While the schools were high level, he most likely would not add much to us other than moving us out of competition for the PIG. To be told the kid is a impact player seems more like a political statement than a potential fact. The guard is at a low level D1 school and was a decent scorer there. He was stud in the PA HS world at a high level HS. If you like Prescott, you will like him and he would have 3 years of eligibility. The second big is virtually invisible. When you weight the risks, the choice is obvious, but no guarantee it can be made, much like the Teal affair. But to agree with Loyal the next year recruiting is very important and anyone who can't recognize that we painted ourselves into this corner just has not watched the recruiting over the last three seasons. As far as getting a good JUCO at this point, it is fantasy. Dreams may come true but that is not responsible recruiting. Remember Belin was had before the season had ended.
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Post by dreamweaver on Jun 11, 2011 11:17:09 GMT -5
There are likely two scholarships left, not one. I think it is almost certain that Tucker is not expected to be a team member. If that is true, then it is entirely conceivable that Dunne can take a quality transfer at any position as well as another big. So
I don't think it is a question of either/or regarding the transfer or big body.
The real question is, is it worth rolling the dice for a late possible signing of a one year player or moving sooner for a lesser quality two year player? I don't think there is really much of a choice. We can't afford to come up completely empty.
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Post by oldtimer1 on Jun 11, 2011 16:16:11 GMT -5
The phrase "painted ourselves into a corner" is as ridiculous statement as anyone with half a brain and without an agenda can make. Comes from Mr. Negativity who has yet to congratulate our team and coach on last season. Try to stay out of his way but every time these inuendos appear, they do require a response.
Some corner we painted ourselves into with a MAAC Championship last year!!! Nice recruiting! By my standards one "paints oneself into a corner" when they do not recognize an evident need. This staff understands our needs much, much better than an internet reading armchair coach. There IS a difference between recognizing a need and filling that need. Don't think that I need to explain any further as anyone who understands recruiting knows the difference between targeting your needs and getting that player to SPC.
If the poster doesn't think that JD and staff isn't doing "responsible recruiting" I can only laugh at that persons ignorance or agenda.
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Post by Peacock on Jun 11, 2011 18:44:50 GMT -5
Have you ever uttered an intelligent comment in your life that was not part of blind stupidty.
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Post by oldtimer1 on Jun 11, 2011 19:24:35 GMT -5
Weak response!
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Post by eport on Jun 12, 2011 3:36:05 GMT -5
Dreamweaver, don't worry be happy......we will not come up empty. I haven't received any feed back on our recent visits, but I know there are more coming in next week. There is plenty of time left and sometimes the best recruits come late. Also, Tucker is taking Summer courses and is on track to become eligible.
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Post by eport on Jun 12, 2011 3:58:01 GMT -5
Figgyprez, Dunne is going hard for a big to fill our immediate need. I would be shocked and disappointed if we settle for a guard since we are already deep at that position.
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Post by spcfan on Jun 12, 2011 7:05:07 GMT -5
My info is Tucker is on track as well. The staff is much higher on Ferguson than people on this board expecting him to play major minutes. The guard available would be a very nice player for us. If we take him we will need the combo of Hill,Costner and Tucker to give us at least 20 minutes a game this year with the balance to Conley and Ferguson at the two front court positions. Costner alone if healthy can do that.
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Post by oldtimer1 on Jun 12, 2011 7:43:44 GMT -5
spcfan - good point on Ferguson. Got a similar feedback from a staff member. Ferguson should get significant minutes but we do need additional help as you know. Costner, as you point out, could help if healthy. Decent player who JD seems to like especially from the point of view of experience.
Right now, I have us at midpack or slightly higher, not PIG. A lot will depend on how JD fits all the pieces together...always a coaches toughest job. We have a lot of question marks but one thing last years run did for us is inspire confidence. Watching the kids practice, play and participate in allowable Summer workouts and conditioning they all remain focused and enthusiastic. I've seen many a basketball team go through the motions over the years...these kids do not. They are really working and believing in themselves.
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Post by spcfan on Jun 12, 2011 9:05:06 GMT -5
A lot depends on how well and how quickly Fulton and Prescott grasp the system as to where we finish. Let's not forget under Dunne you play defense first and offense is a controlled situation only takes the break when it's there. Requires patience and some court intelligence.
Can they replace what Nick and Wes brought to the table. I think their will be definite strugggles and growing pains early so that playing tough competition at the start,Buffalo Utah State ,SHU all in November might hasten the development process.
Prescott had great high school credentials but the performance at Saint Joe's didn't show much.He's truly a key as we are always a bit offensively challenged and will need a guard who can hit the big shot when we must have it. Samuels has been coming quickly in that regard but their has to be another option up top when the clock is winding down.
Thats why i'm not so averse to taking the guard transfer as he has shown double figure scoring ability in D1.If we go for the big which is a primary need as we all agree, he must be a major contributor not someone who rides the pine to make a difference.
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Post by oldtimer1 on Jun 12, 2011 10:12:24 GMT -5
Chris Prescott - will be interesting to see his contribution. 1st. team All-State in Conn. averaging 22pts. per game and a MacDonalds All-American nominee. Also set school record for 3 pointers.
At St. Joe's as a Freshman averaged 12 minutes per game and as a Soph. 14 minutes per game averaging 4.6 points in Soph year. Translates into a 10 pt. per game player if a given more court time. Shooting percentage from the 3 was not good which may have been a factor in less playing time. Yet, Chris can shoot the ball. Good news that he exceeded his scoring average against big name teams such as Purdue, Minnesota and BC. Also competed against Siena and Rider.
Interested fans may want to look at his profile on the St. Joe's website. Unfortunately we know nothing about his defensive abilities.Looking at his credentials and who he competed against, Chris should be a key player and scorer for SPC. Again the open question is how good? At 6'2" and 190lbs (he's solid) with a little rust I am hopeful that Chris will fill the #2 hole quite well. As most of us have pointed out we should be solid and deep at #1, #2 and #3.
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