Monmouth Job

[spcfan]

Those who have interviewed so far , G. Billet CBA head coach local favorite has college experience,Kevin Boyle, HC St Pats,Marty Inglesby ND asst,John Dunne, Louis Orr HC Bowling Green,Jimmy Fox AC Davidson,Scott Spinelli,AC Texas A&M,Emmett Davis,just fired at Colgate HC,Pat Skerry,AC PITT,King Rice,AC Vandy,Dave Duke,AC TEMPLE,Kevin Murphy,Monmouth assistant,Jose Rebimbas,WPC HC,maybe Norm Roberts,former St John's HC.
Orr was felt to be too expensive makes at least 300k at Bowling Green.
Probable finalists are Dunne, Brennan,Inglesby,Rice,Skerry. School may not want a current high school coach eliminating Boyle and Billet though Billet is the local favorite.
Looking at that group good chance John gets it if he wants it to me.
Source is a well connected Monmouth booster.

[loyal]

Skerry would be formidable competition for JD, IMO. He has a very good Big East and A-10 recruiting resume and has lived in the high rent district of college hoops, relative to JD, for over a decade. Dixon's presumed endorsement may carry a lot of weight.
Anyway..........pure speculation........we'll know within 7/10 days.
Have to hope PE is poised and ready to put his own stamp on SPC men's basketball (he inherited Coach Dunne) if JD leaves.

[oldtimer1]

Loyal, while I give Bill Stein the bulk of the credit for hiring JD, I would think that PE had some significant input. He knew JD from their Seton Hall days. Additionally, their relationship at SPC may be one reason for JD to stay...no one looking over his shoulder every minute. I would give a lot of credit to PE for SPC Men's basketball and would say that he has already put his stamp on it.... Peascock Nation, the ESPN game, scheduling etc.

As you say, we'll know within a week or so. Want JD to stay but if he leaves I would make overtures to Jimmy Engles of NJIT. Not sure if Jim would be interested but, throwing out all the records, Jimmy is a John Dunne clone...good image, very good coach and a Program builder.

[loyal]

Oldtimer, agree 100% that PE has done an outstanding job. I am also 100% confident PE will choose a good coach, should it become necessary.

Having said that, I think every AD would like to have his own choice on the bench.....human nature. That's all I meant to imply.

We can agree to disagree about the (potentially necessary) way forward. Boyle is my guy. SPC grad; energy to spare; best access to quality players who would otherwise not consider SPC.

In summary, with PE in the drivers seat, I am not overly concerned if JD were to go.....only concern is timing......need to recruit front liners this spring.....previously stated ad nauseum. :>)

[spc91]

I would hate to see JD go but understand if the opportunity to double salary presents itself. I, too, would like Boyle if he is interested.

I have a question for fellow posters regarding another name that is interesting but has baggage. What do you feel about Bobby Gonzalez? Before we roll our eyes, the guy does have MAAC success and is an excellent recruiter. I know the theft incident is tough to overlook. Maybe it's too soon. What does eveyone think? Does he deserve second chances?

[loyal]

Doubt many AD's would want the related headaches.
I suspect if BG is allowed back into the water at all, it will be as an assistant (recruiter) at a bigger school, where the head coach would be responsible for keeping him under control.
Personally, I doubt he'll ever get another head coaching gig......but certainly not at SPC, that is a lock.

[Peacock]

No issue if he takes the Monmouth job, although it would be fun to see how he builds that team. First on his agenda might be to have Fulton ask for a release as Monmouth needs a PG in the worst way. Monmouth may not want to pay high as indicated by Figgy, but there are Monmouth supporters who bolster the salary much like Iona bosters did for Ruland. In total salary, it is not just the school who pays.

If you want an issue it is Fairfield and Manhattan. The fact that they are MAAC teams poses a major problem for SPC and Elliot. If Dunne was to go to either school it would be a much larger slap than going to Monmouth as it would signify that SPC truly is an inferior school in the MAAC. Just imagine recruiting a player who knows that even a good coach didn't want to stay at the school. The recruits don't care about the salary difference. Every other MAAC school would be quick to point it out.

Now this is a measure of Elliot as he has a two years left on Dunne's contract. He should refuse to allow MAAC teams to talk to Dunne as it cast bad light on the school. Let him go anywhere else but not within the MAAC. The school has enough bad press about the nature of the support, it doesn't need to emulate the Kansas City relationship to the Yankees back in the fifties.

Now for those who seem to not know, Boyle was Stein's first choice prior to the Dunne hiring. Boyle blew the interview with the search committee and it is they that should be given credit for the Dunne hiring.

[loyal]

Pure speculation, but I think Manhattan and Fairfield will attract a much higher level of candidate than Monmouth..........and JD's chances of being hired by those two MAAC schools would be commensurately lower.
You do raise an interesting point, though, about KC/Yankee type perception if that were to occur. Ouch.
My guess is PE would not give Fulton his release until he at least talked to the new coach. Again, speculation.
Did not know Boyle was Stein's first choice. Let's hope for his sake (and ours, I think) Kevin has polished up the 'ol interview skill set in the interim. :>)

[jajk]

I'll reiterate that I hope Dunne stays . Just hope that if he does it is firmed up in some way so that recruiting can go foward . No matter how much JD is trying to do the right thing , this uncertainty can't be good for getting guys . If he does go , I'll throw out an admitted somewhat longshot that one of my sons mentioned and that I would love - Bobby Jr . It would be great for recruiting and for publicity for the school : coaching a walk away from his legendary 60 Minutes dad . He's got his feet wet as ass't for his brother , and money , at least in immediate sense , may not be as important for him as for many guys . A great by-product would be mentoring Lamin as a point guard extraordinaire . Guess this would be precluded if Danny were to get FF job .

[jajk]

While I share the concerns that this uncertainty presents for for our "little engine that could and did " , it should be a joy to all of us that we face this period in so much better shape than we did prior to Dunne's great hire .

We are coming off a MAAC championship thanks in large part to John . The new guy will come into a situation where the cupboard is by no means bare - the first four guys back are talented and tough and we are deep and at the 1,2 and 3 slots , and talented though not deep at the 4 (preferably ) or 5 slot . We have a more than solid guy at the helm in terms of the process and the decision . The MAAC in the last two years has confirmed that it is a great stepping stone for coaches . Of course , we'd like to be more than a stepping stone as Butler , Richmond have shown , amd maybe even VCU may show , but that is the stuff of fantasies for the MAAC as opposed to the A-10 , CAA or Horizon .

I would hope that one of PEs just in case phone calls would be to KeeKee just to see if there is any inclination at all . I assume with KeeKees competitive fire there is still the desire to play a lot more years . But just in case , he is homesick and wants to start coaching it is worth the call . As I said when KeeKee finished his glorious career for us , we OWE him in a big way for all he did for the program and the school . Given where we were before KeeKee , I still believe that maybe Dunne , Elliot , Wes and all the rest would never have happened without him .

[oldtimer1]

Loyal, do not believe everything that is posted as if it were fact. Do not wish to start another fight with Peacock but he knows nothing of which he is talking about....scary stuff!


#1) Boyle was not Bill Stien's first choice...period. "for those who seem not to know..." is Peacock's quote and he has no idea. Just BS posting.


#2) Anyone who knows John Dunne understands that JD would NEVER approach Lamin and ask him to de-commit. Other coaches (not all) have been known to do so but JD has too much respect for SPC, Pat Elliott and his own ethics to do so. That is not to say that if JD were hired at Monmouth that Lamin could not change his mind and ask for a release. Guarantee, however, that JD would not initiate that conversation.


#3) If Peacock wants to take the measure of Elliott, it is entirely his perogative to do so. And if he wants to give advice on how Pat Elliott should handle the current situation, again it's his perogative. Typical of Peacock to tell us what we don't know ( we have' no clue"), what the AD should and should not do and to take the measure of PE as if Peacock was judge and jury.


Bottom line is that I find the entire post inaccurate, self-serving and comical

[Peacock]

You are the ultimate clown. I am not sure you have have posted much with anything other than your own personal bias. You even try to tell us what others are like, just like the Marist fans prior to Brady screwing them, Siena fans prior to Fran leaving and the Fairfield fans prior to Cooley leaving. Why don't you ask Stein personally, he is around periodically. You then can post another fabrication as you have done so many times in the past. I didn't say he disliked Dunne, I just said Boyle was his first choice. Dunne was another finalist.

Also glad you see nothing wrong with allowing a coach to go to another MAAC school. Shows that you just might be the King of Clowns.

[Peacock]

By the way it looks like Steve Masiello will get the Manhattan job.

[eclecticed]

One thing I haven't seen kicked around is the possibility that Cornaccia ( Sp?) and Elliott will get together and extend JD at a considerably higher salary. The college administration has obviously noted the wonderful press the basketball success has brought and they must be considering the long term value of putting up 25 or 50 K to keep Dunne.

I can't help but believe that JD would stay at SPC over NEC's or MAAC's if the pot were sweet enough.

[Peacock]

The real issue is "What does John Dunne want?" I don't propose to know and that dictates what will happen. He needs to take interviews if not just for the experience for if he is as good as many suspect the offers will come. Right now the only interview that has been confirmed is Monmouth and that is not exactly an overwhelming stampede for his services. So the need to speculate that this is a done deal is nothing more than bloggers pumping their chests.

If anything bothers me, is the fact that most discussions center around SPC being a piece of crap program that was rescued by Dunne. This is put forth by the outsiders and supported by many SPC fans. They all buy in to the fact that SPC is not a good place to be at. As long as there is the need to elevate Dunne to Sainthood for a three game run in March, SPC will always be downtrodden. You have to believe some increase would be put on the table. Also interesting that such a low salary is perceived for Dunne. I doubt that the low figure is not even close.

I personally hope he stays and did say that he would be back.