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Post by GunsOfNavarone on Mar 25, 2009 15:21:16 GMT -5
Let's get the ball rolling over here...
What does everyone think of my idea of having a year-in-year-out schedule that includes one non-NJ Big East team, one A-10 team and one team from the ACC, Big 10, Big 12, SEC or Pac-10 (or a team like Gonzaga or Memphis)?
This in addition to Seton Hall and our regular rotation of locals.
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Post by graypoll on Mar 25, 2009 16:52:39 GMT -5
Subject to the coaches' need to instill a winning attitude in the team, I'm with you. Next year's team knows that they can win at the level of the MAAC. I think that a difficult OOC would really benefit them.
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Post by cindycrawford on Mar 25, 2009 17:06:19 GMT -5
I guess we all entertain fantasies of beating the big guys...see Dukiet's wins over Mich. St and Dayton,as well as NIT wins over UConn and Duquesne,but that kind of win is less likely than the poundings we took from the likes of Jacksonville,W.Kentucky,'Nova and Louisvill when we tried to move up in the early '70s. One or two games with a glamor team is OK but we are not ready yet for such an ambitious schedule until we are above the middle in our own conference. Given the 18 conference games we now play there are fewer left than years ago to play OOC. I think it best before the conference play begins to mix two or three ups,with the same number of downs,as well as traditional local foes. I would like to see us return to Christmas tourney play. As I mentioned previously we're efforting the Holiday MSG Festival in '10-11. Another pre season NIT in that year would be great also.But please don't put up another embarrassing PRE Season NIT banner in the rec center.
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Post by spc91 on Mar 25, 2009 23:26:29 GMT -5
I remember during the '90 and '91 seasons, we played tournaments out in Big Sky country and beat the Univ. of Montana to win (both years I think). Why have we not played Montana since? Does anyone know?
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Post by cindycrawford on Mar 26, 2009 5:29:44 GMT -5
We beat them in a tourney in '88 and in the regular season in '90. Have not player since.Both in December.
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Post by figgyprez on Mar 26, 2009 12:13:16 GMT -5
A couple of things. First just got back from Miami NCAA and KeeKee was actually the answer to ascoreboard trivia question during a timeout. (Shortest to score over 2500 pts). On schedule, unless you are willing to just play on the road, big guys need financial guarantees which our treasury and attendance can't back up to get a home and home. I think we should go up but with A10, MAC and Colonial teams who might be willing to go home and home with a reasonable economic agreement
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Post by GunsOfNavarone on Mar 26, 2009 20:21:52 GMT -5
- It's not really about getting wins against big time teams, but, as the saying goes, to be the man, you have to beat the man. It's more about getting in our reps. If you have a contest where you have to bench press 200 pounds in two weeks, you're going to spend the next two weeks lifting 300 pounds to prepare.
- I have no problem playing the away games without the return home games. Those guarentee games pay out big cash, cash we can use. Someone said that in the past, the hoops team didn't get to keep the money (or athletic funding was cut by the differene, which in effect is the same thing). That policy needs to change.
- I'd be all for some tournament games as long as one game was against a name opponent.
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Post by peacockblue on Mar 27, 2009 8:54:13 GMT -5
There are a lot of policies from the Loughran era that need to change in regard to the relationship between administration and athletics and I think most of us recognize that there is progress being made.
In regard to the policy on who keeps the cash, I don't agree that there is any benefit to losing to a team by 25+ points and not having the guarantee money go to the athletic department or the basketball team itself. The only benefit could be in recruiting but I'm not sure recruits care about scheduling as much as other factors (playing time, coaching staff, facilities, etc.)
I agree with figgyprez that a suitable upgrade in the schedule would be playing more teams from conferences such as the A10 and CAA. These would be games we could be more competitive in and possibly get a home and home with. Also I am satisfied playing games against weaker teams from stronger conferences (such as we have done with Rutgers, Seton Hall, Providence, and Florida St in recent years).
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Post by GunsOfNavarone on Mar 27, 2009 19:14:43 GMT -5
Again, I'm not saying we have to take on the AP Top 5, but we can not have the 328th ranked OOC schedule in division 1. What does it say about our program?
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Post by nickd on Mar 27, 2009 23:22:24 GMT -5
We beat Montana twice at their own tourney, At the time we were only team to accomplish that feat . You know Montana would love the oppurtunity to come to the New York Metropolitan area to play. We could try and get a home and home with Gonzaga and Montana which would help us in many ways.
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Post by graypoll on Mar 28, 2009 11:32:19 GMT -5
Again, I'm not saying we have to take on the AP Top 5, but we can not have the 328th ranked OOC schedule in division 1. What does it say about our program? This RPI stuff is so bogus. Not only did Iona have a higher RPI than the Peacocks but the Big East was the THIRD rated conference. I don't disagree that SPC should make an effort to improve its OOC but why don't we agree not to worry about the RPI and just let it fade into the obscurity it so richly deserves.
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Post by jajk on Mar 28, 2009 14:58:46 GMT -5
I would like to see us schedule up two games or so . I would also like to see an exempt tourney this year and/or next so Bacon , Leon and Jenkins get to show their stuff on a bigger stage . Also these tourneys are a great way to add a couple games for the players and fans . The season seems so short for us devoted Peacock fans . There is another way to extend the season , via going deeper in the MAAC tourney and maybe a postseason tourney . Things looking up on this score for next season and particularly the following one .
I think even without the scheduling changes our RPI cold bump up next season naturally with possibly significant increases in SH and RUs RPIs . But I fully agree with prior poster that a reading of RPIs the last few years evidence the silliness of this as a measure of the competiveness of college basketball teams .
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Post by youngalum on Mar 29, 2009 16:49:28 GMT -5
How about an exhibition against Jersey City State....Kind of like a preseason game, could have some fan interest and another opportunity for our team to play against someone else before the real season begins. Im pretty sure this is allowed by the NCAA
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Post by oldtimer1 on Apr 2, 2009 15:49:03 GMT -5
Not sure what degree of latitude JD has for next season, so let's not be too disappointed if we don't "schedule up" significantly. While I agree in principle, let's see what develops.
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