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Post by bluebird on Apr 18, 2024 14:39:08 GMT -5
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Post by willdurant on Apr 18, 2024 14:57:57 GMT -5
And if only the NCAA let Ed O'Bannon sell UCLA jersey's with his name on them.
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Post by spc91 on Apr 18, 2024 15:27:20 GMT -5
And if only the NCAA let Ed O'Bannon sell UCLA jersey's with his name on them. For years, the NCAA acted like pigs and the pigs got slaughtered. Unfortunately, the rest of the farm animals (the schools, particularly mid-majors) have also been rounded up in the wake.
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Post by loyal on Apr 18, 2024 16:22:31 GMT -5
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Post by loyal on Apr 18, 2024 16:29:15 GMT -5
As soon as the current network TV contracts expire (about 2030) the Power 5 will break off from the NCAA, negotiate their own TV contracts, conduct their own tournaments, etc.
MAAC, A-10, basically lower 250 schools which choose to retain D 1 status will be relegated to the lower division. Full stop.
Only great area would be non-football schools like The Hall, Nova, Gtown, Gonzaga, etc….where would they fall?
All arrows point in this direction. 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by loyal on Apr 18, 2024 16:30:10 GMT -5
grey* area…
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Post by figgyprez on Apr 18, 2024 16:33:15 GMT -5
It’s obscene. The only thing preventing the football scenario is that in bball the bigs need the smalls more than in football bc the regular season has far more games to fill. I really don’t think that say coach pikiell wants to play 20 big 10 games and then 9-10 more games vs p6 schools. Just about everyone has 3-4 guarantee games on the slate. But if tv thinks people will watch 2and 4 Georgetown vs 1-5 Minnesota on December 11 I guess the coaches will swallow hard and cash the check. At least some of the guarantee games have a local interest and at least some local tv viewership But of course the record will determine their longevity
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Post by latigo on Apr 19, 2024 9:36:13 GMT -5
As soon as the current network TV contracts expire (about 2030) the Power 5 will break off from the NCAA, negotiate their own TV contracts, conduct their own tournaments, etc. MAAC, A-10, basically lower 250 schools which choose to retain D 1 status will be relegated to the lower division. Full stop. Only great area would be non-football schools like The Hall, Nova, Gtown, Gonzaga, etc….where would they fall? All arrows point in this direction. 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by latigo on Apr 19, 2024 9:45:28 GMT -5
Loyal. BINGO! I've said it in the past. It will start with football and once the P5/6 realize they don't need the NCAA... ballgame.
Bluebird, to your point about JJ offering double, Kaintucky radio is back on the ledge. Pitino sent a video out after they hired Pope and Kaintucky fans gobbled it up.
Willdurant, speaking of O'Bannon, I remember in the 80's Steve Alford posed (in IU uniform) on a sorority calendar which proceeds went to a youth charity. The NCAA suspended him a game and Knight suspended him another game. Oh how times have changed.
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Post by latigo on Apr 19, 2024 10:12:02 GMT -5
One thing I forgot. Rex Chapman, who played for UK in the 80's, said he was offered 700k to stay at Kaintucky and bypass the NBA. The NBA only offered him 675k. Youtube it. Trust me, I believe it.
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Post by youngalum on Apr 19, 2024 10:21:40 GMT -5
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Post by dreamweaver on Apr 19, 2024 11:03:38 GMT -5
While I hate what is going on, I agree with Latigo that the NIL is not the panacea or Armageddon that others have believed it to be. First off, we have been competing for ever with under the table no show jobs, sneaker money, hookers, jobs to parents, etc, forever. Now, it’s just going to be more above board. I am sure there are going to be unforeseen developments that no one saw coming which will create even more chaos. I do agree that the talented players at the MAAC level who are now in play were likely not in play under the old recruitment tricks.
It should be apparent that the most money spent guarantees nothing. You can see it at the professional level in baseball and basketball. Things have gotten more difficult for MAAC level schools but basketball is not just about talent. Fit, defense and unselfishness are key components. How else could SPU get to the elite eight?
For whatever reason, our basketball team news, including the roster and recruiting efforts, remain under the cone of silence. I do have faith in Coach Bash to keep us ultra competitive. .
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Post by latigo on Apr 19, 2024 11:28:29 GMT -5
Dreamweaver, I do think that SP has been fortunate that they have had really good coaching. Coach Holloway and Bash stress team play and has been hugely successful. Also, to the EE point, good coaching against bad coaching usually wins.
Youngalum, great post. I really never thought about it, but it does seem more likely than not. Unfortunately. One thing to point out, Cuban isn't as heavy hitter as you think at IU. Mellencamp and the Cook Group fund most things. Cuban just shows up when it is an opportune time. AKA, Knight returning.
It's gonna be interesting the next few years. No idea where this is heading. Lewis and Clark expedition. Who knows?
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Post by latigo on Apr 19, 2024 13:00:16 GMT -5
Today at 12:31 PM #5 bsmitty08 said: This is getting dumb. They are funding 25 mil for Memphis NiL. There are going to be making more than nba players soon. I think I will be watching many more hs games in the future and less college ( aka nba 2.0) games in the future.
This was posted on the IU basketball forum. I couldn't agree with it more. I know NBA players make more money per year than NBA coaches, however, when will the first NIL college basketball player make more than their coach? Supply and Demand? Also, I wonder if NCAA academic guidelines and grade point average will adhere to this. I'm reminded by the movie with Back to School with Rodney Dangerfield when he hired Kurt Vonnegut to write a paper for his son, on Kurt Vonnegut. I do know this, If I'm being paid a million a year, I'll find a smart guy or gal to get me through. Go Peacocks!
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Post by lilrobjc201 on Apr 21, 2024 16:33:22 GMT -5
Today at 12:31 PM #5 bsmitty08 said: This is getting dumb. They are funding 25 mil for Memphis NiL. There are going to be making more than nba players soon. I think I will be watching many more hs games in the future and less college ( aka nba 2.0) games in the future. This was posted on the IU basketball forum. I couldn't agree with it more. I know NBA players make more money per year than NBA coaches, however, when will the first NIL college basketball player make more than their coach? Supply and Demand? Also, I wonder if NCAA academic guidelines and grade point average will adhere to this. I'm reminded by the movie with Back to School with Rodney Dangerfield when he hired Kurt Vonnegut to write a paper for his son, on Kurt Vonnegut. I do know this, If I'm being paid a million a year, I'll find a smart guy or gal to get me through. Go Peacocks! imo I hope they develop a pro sports degree, because adversely its silly to expect like LeBron James to take philosophy if he doesn't see the benefit for his career outlook. If I ran SPU, Id develop a degree that caters to pro sports and can run with an NIL program. I think Colorado and some other schools are trying something like that but it's mostly like marketing type stuff. Id develop a degree that involves everything from finances to business to fashion or whatever things pro athletes need these days. Especially if they are looking more and more like employees over students.
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